Non-meat eaters. LOL.

As I said before, unless it's for religious reasons, as in your religion prohibits you from eating any meat, or you can't eat meat due to dietary issues (you can't digest meat well), then reasons for eliminating it is not really persuasive.

Really? Who cares if India has 500 million non-eat meaters. It's fuckin' India. They don't produce Olympic wining athletes. 16 million in the US is about 5% of the population of the country. It's like saying 5% of the population is not straight and therefore the 95% of those not straight probably should experiment with bisexuality. As for China? Let me guess, the China Study.

Non-meat eating is the "new" secular religion in the world. It's a cult, sorta. It's very much like thinking global warming should be an international concern where everyone relies on solar powered everything.

But there was sanity at another site -

He's basically on point on how meat eaters become non-meat eaters. (No, this isn't the same as non-believers reading the Bible and converting.) They read a book (China Study) and then watch a movie (usually Food Inc.) and BOOM almost over night they join the cult. This is way different from religious reasons. I'm sure about his #1 and though his #2 is too vague. A certain diet can "cure" a rotund body. Keep reading.

I lost about 25 pounds by eating 4 oz. of chicken every single day, white rice, 4 oz of farmed fish and frozen veg. It wasn't a short process - about four months. I eliminated processed food as well. Before that I wasn't active due to my job, so I changed that inactive lifestyle and started to exercise daily for about an hour (running and light resistance training).

I don't buy into the cow fart argument. I don't buy into the whole sentient being shit. I'm highly skeptical of the bible called China Study. Also why have most of the non-meat eaters I've come across have been women? Very few have been men.

Moderation when eating meat is key. Food portion is key. Exercising is key.

The new "green juice": vegetarianism/non-meat eating. Sorta.

If you haven't been paying attention to the health world of the masses green juice was the "it" thing for sometime. Then studies came out and said that green juice, while good in its intentions, isn't all that when it comes to consuming nutrition and getting the best out of your greens and veggies.

There's a current post on facebook about a "weekday vegetarian" (he eats meats on the weekends) encouraging others to eat less meat and its health benefits. This was a TED Talk. Surprise. Now, I'm all for eating less meat - more so a moderation of it - because I do believe too much of any type of food is harmful. But I'm also not an advocate for full blown non-meat eating unless your diet necessitates it and/or religion forbids eating meat. This is why I give little credence to moral and ethical reasons for not eating meat purely on a secular level. It's not persuasive. It's horrible, horrible philosophy. It's rather shallow even.

One of my favorite brain farts of a non-meat eater:

"We should consciously think about what we wear and eat. Where are clothes come from. Where are food comes from."
"Can I ask you a question that veers off the non-meat eating path?"
"Sure."
"So, what about no premarital sex?"
"Well that's just crazy."

In the comment section of this facebook post there were many who lauded this move and shared their experience with cutting out meat and experience a "jump" in life. One man posted that he lost 13 pounds in two months by simply cutting out meat. I replied I lost about 16 pounds in the same amount of time while I ate meat - every single day. I ate about 4 ounces of chicken breast, a half a cup of rice, a cup of veggies for dinner. I limited my calories to about 1500 than the usual 2000. Add in an at least 45 minutes of exercise six out of seven days and I was losing about two pounds each week. Keep in mind I only ate meat for one meal and it was a limited portion. This is partially why I eye roll when I read enthusiastic stories of eliminating meat and experiencing some new form of self. 

Of course no one is immune to the pathetic philosophy of "do no harm to animals" which follows no meat eating. Fellow Christians and Catholics have express this and I just shake my head.

But hey, I have written about how I feel about the non-eating community that base their choice on "no harm" and ethics and saving the earth from cow farts. I think they're damn idiots. I follow Temple Grandin's thought on animal killing: do it humanely as possible.

I say to my fellow millennials and Gen-Y peers: It's sad that you're an SJW. It's also sad you're a non-meat eater. It's even more sad you're a non-believer. But I can work with non-believers. I can at least reason with them to see my point. The discussions are at least interesting. Non-meat eaters and SJW's? Cult-esque.

Now I'm going to go to Walmart and buy myself a 6lb bag of frozen chicken breasts. I need the protein to recover from my daily runs. It'll taste quite good with some barbecue sauce on the side. Oh, and I can't forget the white rice. 'Cause I'm Asian. Identity politics.

UPDATE: This is the response the poster responded back with -

So I assume you were exercising in addition to your meatless diet. If true, the difference between my diet and lifestyle and yours was that A) I wasn't eating healthy and B) that I lacked exercise. I was a chubby gnome. But you said you went meatless and lost weight. I said I didn't and lost weight as well. Then you throw in the moral and environmental scare cards and say no one's telling anyone to not eat meat. Um, I think you're strongly implying that people shouldn't eat meat for the reasons you give. As for meat not being a need but a luxury in terms of a diet? Isn't that a tautology regarding every person's diet on earth?

"There is simply no logical counter argument."

You've made no logical counter argument against killing animals for food.

Vegetarianism and Veganism.

I can only see this being a respectable option if:

(1) It's due to religious reasons.
(2) It's for your health e.g. you need to follow a specific diet for health concerns

It's a good thing the first vegan and vegetarian I met were cool people, not at all preachy about their diet. The vegan was a vegan because her mom raised her that way. The vegetarian grew up eating meat but stopped because she realized she didn't like the look of cooked meat, that the brown coloring was just off putting. Fair enough.

After the meeting of the third vegetarian things went downhill and I became suspicious of the movement. The third was my sociology professor who, during his MSW internship, was preparing food for an after-school program and was disgusted by the meat sandwiches he had to make. Meh. His move to not eating meat was more of a moral choice, but as with most secular moralizing I'm usually never persuaded. As with most things secular urging to do "the right thing" it's just creating a moral philosophy out of indignation (my atheist English high teacher said this about religion, but he was actually a cool guy and was nice about it).

The rest of the non-meaters? Cult like. Moral reasons. How about health reasons? That was on the bottom of their list. 

Many will point to the popular, if somewhat obscure (not a contradiction), China Study. I say it's popular because it's widely known by those who advocate for a non-meat diet; usually in such circles it's a common source to use.

I don't buy the "sentient animal" talk. I truly don't. I believe it's the abuse of the narrative of Enlightenment. Of course there's Food Inc., but I also don't give a damn about that because as long as my ground meat is fresh I don't really care if the cow was slaughtered like Olivia in Scream 4 (a straight-out horrible death). I feel morally sick when humans are killed given the circumstance. For example I don't get morally indignant when humans are killed during war. Why? Because it's war. War is complex. I do get get sad and upset when I hear stories of innocent lives being caught in crossfire in gang territories. But animals? Unless it's some psycho chopping up dogs for fun or Peter Wiggin skinning squirrels my heartache for animals being slaughtered for food is near nonexistent. Sure, kill them humanely, don't inject them with hormones and treat the cows to a beer diet, but don't tell me they're "sentient animals" equal to humans. That guilt trip just doesn't work me - I'm immune to it.

Did I cry when the horses were shot in Atonement? I was a little taken aback, but no. I felt sorrow for Cecelia and Robbie. I thought Briony was a sympathetic little bitch.