The government sedevacantists.

Catholic Answers: A bunch of DNC sympathizers.
Fisheaters: A bunch of "no country" Catholics.

Let me explain. People posting in CA's secular forum are pretty much obsessed with Donal Trump. Not in the "The Donald" way, but in a OH GOD THIS IS WHAT THE BASTARD SAID! Fisheaters tend to attract more traditional Catholics who are more aware of The Left, with a touch of 'alt-right' but not in a good way. This 'alt-right' is home to some bitches who have some odd interpretation of what the Civil War meant, bemoan that there is no third party (fair enough, but the way they do it so pathetic) and no longer can be deemed as patriotic. Their country isn't the USA; it is seen as a lifeless body in which they supposedly happen to live in.

Instead of hating on the United States that it isn't like Western Europe, New Zealand or South Africa, or even Brazil, like Leftists do the Fisheater political aware poster doesn't believe it's been a real nation since 1865. Instead of omitting God (as would the ardent atheist/secularist/humanist ... whatever they call themselves) when he says the pledge of allegiance he omits "indivisible" and "one nation." These  people I call "government sedevacantists."

These two distinct types do have one thing in common, besides trying to be the best Catholics they can be: They make note that they aren't happy with the current slate of POTUS nominees. Some on CA will be sympathetic to Sanders because they went full retard and think that doing God's will is enacting "fairness" and a "living wage" aka socialism. Fisheaters, acting like weird-ass political outliers, think that every (R) candidate is filled with corruption. Basically, these people don't vote. Then they have the audacity to moan about how America is a godforsaken land.

Oddly enough I have more qualms with the fisheater type. He's more hardheaded and plays his own version of "want your cake and eat it too." In some striking ways he is the same at the Leftist who hate's American for not being like Sweden, Norway or Iceland. At least those who subscribe to Western Europe bowing tells the world what they want; the political fisheater doesn't broadcast what he wants America to be, just that it "it's lost" and that his version of patriotism really doesn't do anything besides bitching about how every politician is bought-and-sold.

Of course, like every jaded poster, he tends to express his heart either in his handle or avatar (again, like secular Leftists - with the "A" for atheist for their avatar, or maybe the popular Spaghetti Monster). Notice the stars in the American flag are replaced by the Sacred Heart of Jesus. Remember, this government sedevacantist is only loyal to his state and the RCC. The stars representing each state means nothing to him because the US was lost in 1865.

Let's look at headmaster of fisheasters, Vox, thoughts on the term Judeo-Christianity. Gone full retard? I'll leave that up you to decide.

Posters like Vox and the government sedevacantists are modernists/leftists in their own special way despite adhering to traditional Catholicism: They dismiss any patriotism and make up their own version of it, sorta like Leftists when it comes to family and marriage. They are no better than their Leftist counterparts.

And it takes a son of immigrants to show how idiotic the "American Dream is Dead" types are. The poster "Might_4_Right" has an Italy flag for his location. An American expat in Italy, maybe? If he is then he's the last person who should talk (e,g Vox Day). A coward who left for "greener pastures." If he's indeed a foreigner then he's the same anti-American European who just drinks the BBC-esque Kool-Aid.